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I know this is weak compared…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 25, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsNovember 14, 2014

I know this is weak compared to real stickball (beyond weak), but I moved to the Jersey suburbs before developing the eye-hand coordination required to hit a pitched Spaldeen. We used the same standard equipment but the population density didn’t compare to the project and you could rarely get more than 4 guys to play. We hit the ball out of our hand either directly as in “flies up” or throwing it up and letting it bounce a couple of times before getting a “running” start and unwinding on it. We played in the street with home being online with a telephone pole. Everything was automatic (as in our form of stoop ball). Over the wires that crossed the street at the next telephone pole was a homer. Anything on the ground past the infielder was a single as was a liner past the outfielder (one that landed in front of him). Over the outfielder was a double and reaching the next pole but not over the wires was a triple. Great fun it was when most families had one car (if that) and traffic was rare. Jim Mason

Posted in Stickball, Stoopball | Tagged suburbia

Hugh, We did blast each…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 25, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsJanuary 25, 2002

Hugh, We did blast each other’s caps as far as possible but the only advantage that I recall was the obvious one of making it more difficult for your opponent to reach his immediate destination and of course you did get to take another shot. We had no numbers in the central trapezoids as you noted. As I recall we considered the lines of the trapezoids extending to the corners of the large box surrounbding #13 to be arms of a spider, the skull (13) being the spider’s head (ignorant we were of the 8 leg requirement of Arachnids!) Also there was no consideration of switching caps. Everybody played with their current favorite which was carried around in your pocket at all times. On occasion I saw “casual” players using unweighted caps or even wooden checkers, but they were generally considered to be fools or rookies. Thanks again for a great visit. Jim Mason

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Hi Jim, The game…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 25, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsOctober 20, 2014

Hi Jim, The game I’ve documented is based on 1970s vintage Bronx skully. It has definitely evolved through the years, and the memory of the way you played may be perfectly accurate (though not going backwards is like a day w/o sunshine IMHO–and I couldn’t imagine not hitting another player’s cap to get into the next box). For example, putting numbers in the trapezoids around the 13 box is definitely a Bronx/Harlem thing of the mid/late 60s, and never made it to Queens. And, believe it or not, if you played with 13 boxes, you definitely were higher up on the skully evolutionary cycle–we’ve seen pictures and talked to folk who played with only 9 boxes “back in the day.” There’s really no right answer about the rules–I know for a fact that we had rules on my block that kids 2 blocks away didn’t. Now that I think of it, the “bonus boxes” around “13” were introduced to my block by a kid who moved from another part of the Bronx! Please feel free to try the rules as we have here, or play the way you remember, or take a hybrid of both–just don’t change rules in the middle of the game! -Hugh McNally

Posted in Bronx, Manhattan, Queens, Skully | Tagged Harlem

After reading the rules…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 25, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsJanuary 25, 2002

After reading the rules published by this site I have a couple of other questions/comments. I don’t recall proceeding up and down from 1 to 13 and back again. My memory is once you reached 13 and went out of town you were a killer. I also have no memory of any rules that would allow you to skip boxes in your journey to killer (bonus rules). Is there anyone else out there who played in the late 40’s or early 50’s with similar memories or have I just forgotten? It’s been close to 50 years since my last “competitive” game!

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This site has made my day….

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 24, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsNovember 14, 2014

This site has made my day. I played skully avidly in the early 1950’s in the Amsterdam Housing project near Lincoln Center (which didn’t exist at the time). I played with a passion through second grade and then my family moved to New Jersey where new adventures took over. As I recall my dad filled the bottle caps with melted crayon for me in fear that I’d burn the apartments down. I live in New Mexico now and taught it to my daughter. I still have the caps I modified here in the early 80’s. If only I could find some decent competition! Also in the 1980’s I introduced the game to my nieces and nephews in Managua, Nicaragua. I told them it was called it Matador (killer). I can still remember the joy in my young niece’s voice when she made killer, yelling out “MATADOR!”

Posted in Skully | Tagged crayons

Does anyone remember the…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 20, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsNovember 19, 2014

Does anyone remember the words and hand m0otions to Say, Say My Playmate or Oreo? Oreo started out Oh, do you know the way to eat an oreo Well if you do it you must unscrew it… What is the rest?

Posted in Clap and Rhyme, Girl games | Tagged Does anyone remember...

If the SBHS web site wasn’t…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 17, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsNovember 19, 2014

If the SBHS web site wasn’t enough, this is the greatest. I grew up in Vanderveer Estates. Choy’s, Mano’s and Lenny’s Pizzerias [some of the first around], Mark’s Toy Corner, Carl and Mike’s candy store, Louie’s candy store near the library on Nostrand. Anyone hear from Teddy Friedman or Jackie Fagan? How about when JFK campaigned on the corner of Nostrand and Foster. I stuck my head in the car to shake Herbert Lehman’s hand and couldn’t believe it — an air conditioned car. Any grads of PS 269: Mr. Farb, Mr. Spiro, Mr. Shapiro, Mrs. Genge, Mrs. Ephraim, whom, I’m ashamed to say, Stewart Meyer and I gave an ulcer to. PS 89: Mr. Ezekiel, Mrs. Branhower. I still speak with Abe Schwarz and his sister Helen. We all lived at 1414 New York Avenue. Let me know.

Posted in Brooklyn, Food & Drink, Locales | Tagged candy store, I grew up...

Through Oprah, Darwin’s nature…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 15, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsJanuary 15, 2002

Through Oprah, Darwin’s nature vs.nurture debate, and Court TV we know that there are reasons for many people to take the wrong path in life: family problems, trauma, medical, etc. but we have all come across some pure unadulterated “bad seeds” in our youth and adulthood; folk you knew would be hell raisers down the line. I was notorious for befriending the outcasts, I thought myself one and believed all outcasts were just misunderstood. Those folk proved me wrong. 2 girlfriends in high school asked me to guess the fragrance of a small bottle with clear liquid that looked like a musk oil bottle that the incense guy sells in the subway. Several times I sniffed it and told them it didn’t smell like anything, that’s when an enormous headache hit, they had me sniff Rush. I went to San Francisco with blinders on, anticipating it to virtually be the “OZ” of the outcast, (in many obvious ways it definately fits that bill), but I saw people who had been labeled bad seeds because they were “different” doing some great things. The most sincere feeling church I ever frequented was loaded with folk from all walks and denominations: homeless (yes, and smelly), corporate execs, skaters, skins, Mexican (the original)low-riders, homeboys. We all just wanted to hear a good word for a change, to feel good about our collective humanity, despite the media deceptive portayal of intolerance, disharmony and hatred. Bad seeds use the ignorant for entertainment purposes. I’d always thought myself a savvy New Yorker, yet it was usually sheer ignorance, about street wise issues versus the forces of kids who knew things most kids shouldn’t, that got me in trouble growing up. I try to teach my son the lessons I’ve learned. Thankfully, some of the kids he thought so cool (I saw trouble coming a mile away), caused problems, ditched him when the going got rough. Fortunately, his teachers could see that his sudden troubles came as a direct result of his newly acquired “friendships” and extracted the problem. More important than him finding my warnings to be right, he saw that I was there for him, like a true friend. Now he keeps his circle of friends small. I see his group sticking together to weed out problematic associates. I tell him to keep track of his own motives when developing friendships, to not be the bad seed. Everyone goes through a period of boredom or low self-esteem, perhaps when they just feel like causing some grief. That’s far different from wanting to ruin someone, or causing harm. Bad seeds seek utter destruction, of those around them, and ultimately themselves. Admittedly I was dense because it was only after being battered by the passing of time and weird experiences in extensive world travel that I finally saw (what most see without ever leaving their hood): You certainly can’t tell a book by it’s cover, it’s accent, it’s nationality, it’s religion,it’s monetary or social status, it’s country,it’s neighborhood, it’s political party. I have been fooled by (deceptive)intelligence, ignorance, wealth and poverty. Bad seeds are easily disguised in the most appealing of packages. Any one can flip a switch on you. My circle of associates is small, but flexible and diverse.

Posted in Reader Stories

Forget “Hopscotch” . . ….

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 15, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsOctober 20, 2014

Forget “Hopscotch” . . . it was only called “Potsie” in my neighborhood (Boro Park). We did have a name for our “marker” and I can’t remember what it was. Can someone help me? Stan

Posted in Girl games, Hopscotch | Tagged potsy

I feel that with all that…

Streetplay Discussion Archive Posted on January 3, 2002 by Streetplay DiscussionsJanuary 3, 2002

I feel that with all that is going on in our country you should update all children foundations and medical facilities around the U.S. With any money you feel you have left over to spend should be used to benefit the families of our nations great disaster and to those with their own little disasters in their own cities and states. thank you for your time …

Posted in Site suggestions | Tagged Streetplay business goals

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